Icon Of Sin Doom
Apr 12, 2019 DOOM’S FIRST EPISODE, Knee-Deep in the Dead, was constructed according to several themes. Icon of Sin: Doom and the Making of John Romero's Sigil.
Crappy and uninspired name to be replaced later. Yeah, I know.I think I am not the only one that got very disapointed with Doom 2's ending. Like many others, I wanted to fight a real monster, under the same 'Shoot it until it dies' policy as we used against the Cyberdemon and Spidermastermind in the first game. Ladies and Gentlemen, I present you the missing Doom 2 actor! The real Icon of Sin!This is a MAP30 replacement for Doom 2 or Final Doom. It can also replace the MAP30 in any megawad, and will not conflict with maps that uses the bossbrain actor.This wad also features custom music, and a custom ending sequence.Things to do:- Make his ultimate attacks more fancy.- Improve detail on the arena.- Add dificulty settings (make him have more hp and be more vicious if on UV or Multiplayer)- Find some voice actor wanting to do voice acting for the final text (currently using the PSXDoom voice as placeholder)You can download the current test version here.
Interesting idea, I like the epic atmosphere of it, though the boss looks a little goofy to me. I think its the way his waist is so thin and his legs are splayed apart, it looks like he's hunched over and thrusting his groin at you. Considering he doesn't actually walk anywhere I'd be tempted to get rid of the legs and just give him a snake-like body, or have his lower half obscured by flames or something. Also his arms look a bit copy-and-paste, i'd get rid of the extra ones and turn those ones at the top into bony wings maybe.Playing as I do without mouselook, getting close enough to shoot at him all I can see is his crotch, and it looks like I'm firing rockets at his testicles. Not sure if that was the idea or not, but its a shame that I can't really see him while I'm fighting him.
I'd move the whole thing down, here's something I knocked up in photoshop to show the kind of suggestions I'm making. It's attacks should give it character, but instead they just feel like a random assortment of attacks that are also far too small scale; a Mancubus fireball is a fine scale for a Mancubus, but not for something this big.It's also as much that the animation of him making most of his attacks is so un-natural; he just stands there almost stationary as random things come from random parts of his head, despite now having a body. I don't mean he has to move around the arena, just him physically appearing to make all his attacks with his newfound body, like he does with the lightning and ultimate attack, would add so much. But obviously though, that could require a lot of sprite work.I also admit that I think mouldy's mock up looks better appearance wise.Also, I'd place the backpack at the start of the hall, not the end; so one doesn't have to backtrack to pick up the additional ammo the backpack now allows one to carry.
Dude, Doom has needed this for a LOOOOONG TIME! I can't wait to see the final product, as those pics look AWESOME! Also, the ideas that went into this seem very well thought out, I mean, an anti-BFG shield is a great way to answer the issue of giving the boss too much HP or letting him die too quickly to the BFG. I plan to use this mod to the fullest to replace any of my favorite megawads where the level 30 boss is an icon of sin (provided it's compatible with said wad, of course).Mark, I freaking love how purpose-driven your projects are.
Godspeed, Sir! And I can't wait:)Three questions:Compatability with Brutal Doom?Will the anti-BFG shield be there for all difficulty levels or just not in the easy ones?Does your program detect/replace the Romero head for execution or does it know based on textures or something (forgive me, I know nothing of doom building/scripting)?
The Icon Of Sin
Sorry guys, but Doom shows its limitations here, no matter how much GZDoom is trying to pump it. Go put this in Doom 3 or something easier maybe, but still with more advanced physics than Doom 2. A colossal Doom 2 Final Boss on legs would just be a giant block with shaky graphics here. I'm saddened that the majority of games more complex than Doom 2 are too hard and not much fun to edit, or are crippled with other limitations.Disclaimer: I didn't play this mod, I just based this on others' reactions and the YouTube video.
Icon Of Sin Doom 2
I appreciate the initiative and the design is pretty cool. Admittedly, the modified version showing the Icon with wings was probably better. Although I can see where some of the guys are coming from, I don't mind the 'stationary throw attacks at you' approach of this guy. Reason being, I'm from an older era when you played a lot of 2D side scrollers and you'd have huge bosses pretty much serve as huge wall decorations and attach you with minimal animations. Granted, that's not really an apples to apples comparison with Doom, but it gives me a little nostalgia.